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Friday, 20 August 2010

Fleamarket Friday: I Have Been Seduced By The Dark Side...

I fear I might be about to be stripped of my 'old school' credentials, but I'm really drawn to this latest iteration of Dungeons & Dragons - Wizards of The Coast's Essentials line, a streamlined on-ramp for newcomers to their 4th Edition of the venerable game.

I wants it, my preciousssssss, I wants it...




And there's lovely boardgames too!

So much shiny goodness...

6 comments:

  1. I wouldn't pee on 4E if it was on fire, but I am going to pick up the new Red Box - if for nothing else nostalgia's sake.

    Ravenloft, though... I don't know. There's not nearly enough in there to justify the enormous price tag, considering that with similarly-priced Fantasy Flight Games' products there's 4 or 5 times more in the box. And I don't like the roleplaying element being taken out of an RPG.

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  2. Depends what you consider old school/new school. I haven't yet seen an iteration of D&D that wasn't old school even when they try to dump what they think new school is into it.

    We should have one of those all-out RPG.net flame wars about simulationism/narrativism some day.

    You know, for fun.

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  3. How do I unfollow this blog? ;)

    I'm done with D&D4, and no amount of cynical appealing to nostalgia will get me to buy this; if I want to relive the old Red Box, I've got the Dragon Age rpg for that.

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  4. Ravenloft is less interesting to me, but I do intend to buy the 4e Essentials boxed set.

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  5. I don't get all this hatred for 4th Edition?

    Has anyone who considers themselves anti-4e actually played it, properly, rather than just skimming the rules? If so I'd like to hear what their issues are with it. Specifics - not just "oh, it's a miniatures game now" or "it's not proper Dungeons & Dragons".

    I'll admit I have yet to read the rules fully or play a game of it, but of the many pro-4e podcasts I've listened to to in the last week or so (and there are a LOT out there), I get the impression that it plays very well, even if it does require a change of mindset.

    To my uneducated eye it certainly appears more user-friendly than the sprawling, ugly mess that was 3E and 3.5E.

    But at the end of the day, I've never wanted HeroPress to be about rules and crunch, I was always more interested in the stories that could be generated and told with these roleplaying systems.

    And it's an indisputable fact that WotC is producing some fine-looking material in support of 4e and seems to have plans for many more years' worth of product. Which you can't say about many other current role-playing systems on the market (for instance, most licensed products these day are part of a three or four book deal and then BANG, that's it - regardless of how much you like the game).

    As to the games, in comparing them to FFG you hit upon a major issue across the gaming spectrum these days. FFG games look fantastic, but their rules are almost as dense as some RPGs.

    I've was given Descent once as a present, and love the tiles and pieces... for roleplaying games, but the rules are totally incomprehensible. Same with that Lovecraft games of theirs - Pete had it and it toured round our group, staying in each house long-enough for the homeowners to accept that it was simply too much and no one had the time or energy to commit to it. Ravenloft on the other hand - which I've put on my 'birthday list' (overcoming the price issue) - seems more like it will sit in our sweet spot... and I believe it can be played solo.

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  6. And... of course, no one's forcing anyone to play 4e. WotC is a business and has to (quite rightly) make money to survive and the nature of RPGs (ie you can buy one book and play a campaign for the rest of your life without spending another red cent on the game) means they have to continue to innovate and change, to produce new product to attract new gamers to the hobby and seduce grognards away from their faded old little brown books with the latest 'shiny thing'.

    That doesn't make them evil. It doesn't make what they are producing crap. It's just business.

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